While enrolled in Chapman University’s dual MA in English and MFA in Creative Writing program, Ruben Guzman wrote The Fountain in Forsyth Park, the tale of a single, middle-aged gay man searching for meaning and mystical connections in the moments of conventional life. Guzman and I were peers in the program until his graduation last year. Recently, I had the opportunity to interview him about the MFA program from his perspective, his debut novel, and his experience with self-publishing. What follows is the second half of my interview with Guzman. (The first half was published on March 25.) The full interview will be posted in the Original Work category in the sidebar to the right and will also be included among the links at the top of the Archetype home page soon.
Arch: You and I have talked about the creative stall (most often referred to as “writer’s block,” a term I think sounds more ominously permanent); was there ever a time while writing Fountain when you felt unsure about how the story or the protagonist, Remy, was developing?
Guzman: Before starting my MFA, I was in a graduate program in screenwriting. So I think part of that formulaic way of storytelling rubbed off, which is odd because that’s the reason I abandoned screenwriting. When I was told that certain plot points had to happen by page 30 or 45, I felt I wasn’t embracing a fully creative and organic storytelling process.
After writing a couple of chapters of Fountain nonlinearly, I discovered that I was able to formulate the outline of the whole story in my head. What I did find useful was generally planning out what happens through the story early on. I deduced that if I knew something would take place later on and this is what happens, I would have a target to shoot for. My advice is to write nonlinearly. I found that I wanted to write about a drag show at a Savannah nightclub way before my story ever got there. For me, nonlinear writing worked well in this case because I had to get the story and characters to that drag show. It also prevented me from veering off on tangents and losing focus.
Arch: I’m writing my thesis nonlinearly, as well, and couldn’t agree more. It really does help you keep the characters and story moving towards pivotal events or targets, as you referred to them. You once mentioned a breakthrough point at which the narrative began to practically pour out of you. How far along were you in the project when you reached that moment, and to what do you attribute the breakthrough? Once there, how was the pace of your writing impacted?
Guzman: I reached that point when I read James Gleick’s Chaos: Making a New Science during the winter break before my final thesis class. I was simply channel surfing one night and came across a program on chaos theory on cable. It piqued my interest since much of it seemed to make sense as metaphor for Fountain. By the time the program mentioned fractals, I was already online buying Gleick’s book. Fountain really explores the balance between the scientific and metaphysical aspects of life.
In reflecting back on that moment of discovery, I believe that keeping an open mind throughout a project is worth the risk. Passion for the story can emerge at a least expected time. When I started watching that show, I was asking myself how I could possibly apply chaos theory to my story. It sounded really odd at first, but something was telling me to give it a chance. Getting to a point of inspiration and letting the writing happen, with no expectations, was a big and cool discovery for me. It made me a believer in trusting impulse – trusting in my Jinn so to speak.
Arch: I’m a fan of Gleick’s book, too, and applied his theories of chaos and Lorenz’s butterfly effect to the works of Virginia Woolf recently, so I know what you mean about those seemingly unlikely connections. Defense of the thesis is one of the final components of the MFA program. Were you confident about Fountain when you submitted it? Assuming you had been working with your defense committee members prior to submitting the narrative as your final thesis, was there any aspect of the process that surprised you?
Guzman: From the first day of writing Fountain, I’d made a commitment to write something that I wanted to read. My focus wasn’t on something that
made sense, was moralistic, was commercially viable, or otherwise. I made my vow and stuck to it. I was fortunate that my faculty advisor, James Blaylock, is a science fiction writer with numerous novels. He was able to give me support when I doubted myself in some of the risks I was taking. He got what I was trying to do and helped me to sharpen my story.
Fortunately, my thesis committee responded favorably to my final product. They praised me for the risks and were unanimous in stating that they hadn’t read anything like it before. When they then asked what I planned to do with it, I told them that I’d reached my goal of writing what I wanted to read. That’s when they urged me to seek publication. Needless to say, I was floating after my thesis defense.
Arch: Last year I attended a writing conference with several other MFA candidates, and we discussed the advantages and value of a literary peer group. After graduation, MFA students lose that inherent forum for critical feedback. Are you concerned about that now that you have completed the program?
Guzman: It will be tough to retain a reliable network of others like one would have in a workshop or thesis setting. Not having a thesis committee to sign off on future projects is a little sad. Like other writers, I do tend to be a loner when writing. But I know a few other writers and peers I can look to for workshopping new projects. I can also do the same for them in their writing projects. I’m also considering finding writing groups with which to share ideas and work. They’re a little tough to find, but they’re out there.
Arch: After finishing The Fountain in Forsyth Park, you decided to self-publish it. What led you to that decision, and what was the process like? Can you offer any suggestions or insights to others who are considering self-publishing?
Guzman: Self-publishing has expanded into a viable way of getting exposure and is at a point where it’s quickly gaining respectability. I wanted to experiment with self-publishing for the sake of getting immediate feedback from others outside of academia. Landing a publisher is incredibly difficult; it could take years or not happen at all. I didn’t want to wait. Much like the writing process, I pursued an unconventional way of publishing. Self-publishing was attractive and was timely and cost-effective for me.
The down side is the reality that I am the marketing department. So connecting with websites, reviews, contests, and blogs like yours are marketing strategies. As a writer, I’ve also had to put myself in a marketing frame of mind with my product.
Arch: What’s next for you? Is there another project in progress?
Guzman: Yes, I’ve got a few projects going. While my priority is marketing Fountain for more readers, I’m also writing a collection of short stories that all revolve around childhood fears. I’m also playing with other forms of narrative such as audio narrative and episodic writing for podcasting to see where they may lead. My focus is to further any one of these projects on a day-to-day basis – and there’s never enough time, that’s for sure.

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The Act of Creation
Posted in Arch Personal Commentary, Creative Writing and Literary Criticism on June 19, 2013 | Leave a Comment »
My office is in chaos – again. After finishing my course thesis on the parallels between Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man and Dostoevsky’s Notes from Underground last month, I spent a Saturday clearing the disarray of books, critical essays, notepads and Post-its with my jotted thoughts and references, my highlighted and dog-eared MLA Handbook and dictionary, half-empty water bottles, bags of kale chips and chocolate covered almonds, and uncapped pens and highlighters scattered on the desk and floor of my den. For weeks this project had consumed me as I worked to create an organized, meaningful, well-written essay from a jumble of notes and fragmented ideas by the midnight deadline.
Three weeks later the clutter is back, as I now work to meet the deadlines for several guest blog spots, a newspaper column, and my MFA thesis. I’m familiar with the muddle of my surroundings and in my mind and am oddly calmed by it. Scribbles on scraps of paper, napkins, envelopes, receipts, sticky notes, and index cards are once again ubiquitous, tacked to my bulletin board and adhered to my computer monitors, reminding me to add a transition, description, or a bit of dialogue to some work-in-progress. Books, writing magazines, and drafts of my columns, stories, essays, and novel chapters, defaced with nearly illegible edits and suggestions (mine and others’), litter the floor in shambolic piles that seem incongruous with my reputed compulsion toward extreme tidiness. It appears this is how I create. Even without the looming deadlines, disorder is part of my process.
While writing my Bakhtinian analysis of The Picture of Dorian Gray a few years ago, I learned that the crude journals in which Mikhail Bakhtin had written one of his most influential manuscripts were lost for nearly seventy years, buried in a lumber room where rats and seeping water had severely damaged much of them. About what could be discerned, Michael Holquist says this: “In the faded scrawl we can see the race between the occurrence of ideas and their feverish transcription. This volume provides a chance to see Bakhtin in all the heat and urgency of thought as it wrestles with itself. In Toward a Philosophy of the Act we catch Bakhtin in the act – the act of creation” (ix).
An 1890 typescript of Dorian Gray with Wilde’s corrections and emendations reflects a similar, seemingly haphazard approach to the process. Words and even entire sections are crossed out or rewritten, and handwritten insertions run between the typed lines and up the margins. Nearly indecipherable notes and corrections to himself and to his typist fill the white space of each page of what we know is not even an early draft of the narrative.
A characteristically organized person, the chaos of my own comparatively tiny writing life vexes me. Over the years, I’ve created paper and computer files and designated bins to contain my various projects, but, once immersed in the work, the system seems to fall apart. And no matter how many journals I purchase, the ideas and insights continue to be recorded on the nearest scrap.
The act of creation, it would seem, is simply messy.
Published on TreeHouse: An Exhibition of the Arts on June 12, 2013.
First galley proof of Marcel Proust’s “A la recherche du temps perdu”
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